(Not Jesus) instead of saying I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. Not all blasphemous thoughts are sinful. Thus, as with most things in life, we must avoid sinful thoughts, but we should also be careful to avoid the sin of unbelief that ultimately results from sinful thoughts. I don't know why, suppose i have thought about that if i eat this i can wrong or (sexual thought ) with god then i pray and said that if i not eat then it is happen but some time its can be hard for me when i not fulfill the deal with god and i afraid that god will punish because i said or deal with god, i am in very trobule plesae help i love god. Youre trying hard to believe and follow God, but you get these intrusive, OCD-type blasphemous thoughts. every now and then i have urges to reject jesusbut i dont want to. . How to Know if you have Committed Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? OCD is greatly exacerbated by stress, and it sounds like youve had lots of that lately with a difficult birth. I have trouble with blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Spirit. Like now I feel like Im upset with the Holy Spirit and I dont know why. Upholds Scripture (Isaiah 8:20, 1 Corinthians 14:37) 4. Not let them bother me as much knowing that it is not my fault. He will not deny or blaspheme his own work and since he lives in you he will keep you from doing the same. Getting doubts about your beliefs and practices can carry a lot of far-reaching implications! Take the quiz below to determine if your profane thoughts are caused byreligious OCDor not. The first route is to analyze passages that talk about blasphemy as ego-syntonic, chosen, willful behavior. He was depressed and suicidal. How do we deal with these biological tendencies? Thank you very much Sir, during my moments of ts thoughts I sometimes do feel God so real and that he's looking at me and answering me.Sometimes too I use to feel abandoned unhappy and that He is very angry with me. With some people (and with some mental health disorders) dialogue does no good. Start doing that, giving to people who need help, and the Lord will keep you so busy with that, that you won't worry so much about blasphemy. Keep right on going and ignore these thoughts. Now Im starting to second guess if the thoughts were from me. That's true no matter what crazy thoughts run through your head. The reason why I am focusing on the unbeliever is because I dont believe a Christian or true believer can commit this sin, but more on that later. However, there are helpful principles that let us know we are on the right track. Isnt that amazing? Any advice? Please pray for me I love the Lord and this has been an frightening experience but it is good to know I am still loved of God. Then he questioned Him with many words, but He answered himnothing. I'm afraid, what if I am a reprobate person? Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. What should I do so I can get in line so to speak. I feel hopeless and helpless.. Is that ocd? hi my name Silvestar i have these unwanted blasphemous thought it started on this year from 5 January till now i have been struggling i seek reassurance from my friends i try to stop them but I cannot I try and try but I feel exhausted it effect my everyday life and I can do anything I just try my Saviour and I hope I would get freedom oneday and I hope God is always on time, what would I do I have an exam next month but I can concentrate to my studies. She flirted with me, and we ended up in a sexual relationship. The more I tell me self I am not going to think about it today, automatically make me start thing about it. What if my motivation to come back to God isn't because of love, but because I'm interested in the benefits and not going to hell. I'm worried, how do I deal with this, and how do I fix it? I said one of his prayers out loud and it helped. Zach has an intrusive thought telling him that he is a devil-worshipper. The source of conviction is the Holy Spirit. I have gone through stages in my life where I have gotten so exhausted from it that I would stop praying for some period of time because I thought I was dammed anyway, the thoughts wouldn't come but because I belong to the father my spirit would desire that closeness with God and I would put more emphasis on my relationship with Christ and once I did the intrusive thoughts would becoming back in some form or fashion. Is it possible for you to talk to me a bit? This cycle of trying to remember if we actually did something bad or not is so annoying, right? She just had a major breakthrough in knowing how to deal with the intrusive thoughts and ruminations. I would have to write book to describe the scope of my scrupulosity and the terror and misery it causes me. I found it hard to be at peace with God or with anyone else when these thoughts would enter my mind. 2. Thank you Jamie, this is helpful, but Im finding its dangerous reading about forms of scrupulosity that I dont (yet) have, because some of the horrors Im reading here might give me ideas! The fear of accidentally making a deal or worshipping or selling ones soul to the devil is one of scrupulositys most common intrusive thoughts. I fell into a terrible anxiety ridden deep depression. Its safe to let it go. As a BetterHelp affiliate, we may receive compensation from BetterHelp if you purchase products or services through the links provided. I need help. Um, I have OCD, and thank you for making this article. I have had really amazing experiences with God throughout my life, but also terrible anxiety. I know I dont believe the thoughts. I constantly feel like I have to work to keep my salvation. Now the thoughts have morphed into doubting my salvation, fearful of the rapture and being left behind, wondering how I could ever be a believer and have these thoughts. There they also sent up theirsweet aroma and poured out their drink offerings. We are. God is our Creator, our King, and our Lord. Even my anxiety itself conjures these. These thoughts came into my head and they are hard to get to leave. If the Spirit of God is living in your heart then the Spirit of God will not deny, slander, or attribute his work to Satan. I don't want to go to hell for all eternity for blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Is scrupulosity coming back because every time I get bored I always think about it sometimes I am afraid to pray every night because I feel this sometimes I think I am a very bad person because of this, Spiritual OCDMoral OCDBlasphemous ThoughtsNasty Thoughts. They were far more privileged than you and I in their ability to witness miracles and hear the words of Jesus. I've been feeling depressed for some years, and backsliding, unfortunately. But because I constantly get horrible thoughts whenever I read it. I couldnt cope with the stone idol, was it Camosh? How can I do I still have God? Im sorry but I dont have a waiting list. Then he read a verse about fasting, so he began skipping two meals per day. If you could send me more tips. As soon as I try to come back to the Lord these evil thoughts would reemerge. Did I renounce Jesus? Its a horrible thought. We grow up knowing that large flying insects like bees, wasps, and hornets can sting. All the people were astonished and said, Could this be the Son of David?But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons (Matthew 12:22-24). Especially if youre wearing a colorful shirt or sweet perfume, you may get lots of bee attention but its typically out of curiosity, not antagonism. I'm crying right now.. Beyond what Ive already written in this article, just know that youre not alone in this fear. The end result was a blasphemous thought that I did not mean. I think the reason you have relief as you just let it out is because your mind kept it in all the time and is finally getting some relief without pushback, kinda like after straining or doing a hard workout you get relief. For I am undone, the scrupulous person feels that they are at the very end of their lifeline. They turn to God for fresh forgiveness. Thank you so much for allowing God to use you to help people who have this kind of problem and Thank God for you. I was Hospitalized for 5 months and during that time the Scrupulosity was gone. So yes that particular one is less common but is part of the mix. Just when you were about to sit down at the outdoor picnic, you hear the ominous buzz of a bee around your head. I thank God that I found this article. In addition, some people experience anxiety and anger when they are confronted with these ideas. I think she needs a doctor. They bring the whole gang: obsessions and compulsions, too! Moses committed murder once. And thats what exposure therapy helps you to do. Please help ! God bless you! I need more advice from you please, this article was so helpful I need more please! Yes, keep going! Everybody has weird, inappropriate thoughts from time to time. I am no longer a Eucharist Minister, mainly my decisionbut I was basically told by the clergy that i could not teach the kids because i married a man that had been divorced. I can not stop the endless guilt. Let me give a quote from one of my favorite commentators, Henry Alford, about the unforgivable sin of blaspheming against the Spirit. And if you get bored of one, itll morph into a different form to make sure it maintains your attention. These thoughts would come during sincere prayer and hinder them. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. Again, I reassure you that your words may have offended God but they DIDN'T Break God. In fact, sometimes blasphemy is committed unconsciously and against our will, just as a person might have an involuntary thought or feeling of anger or hatred toward another person, place, or thing which they would not otherwise choose to hate on purpose. And I didnt even know anything of their book nor I know much of bible but I only know I have a lot of faith in jesus but they made me doubt my faith and even made me take action. I got desperate and then found this website, it again passed and I kinda forgot about it, but then last month it got realy bad again, I had doubts about the existence of God and started to blame him for everything that had gone wrong in my life, i was desperate for some relief and, obviously it didn't help. Her dad was mad at me I don't blame him. I have cried out to God many times about this and I don't know what to do. These thoughts started about doubting my salvation. I have talked to dozens and dozens of others who express the exact same concerns. Thank you for describing your struggle Im sure there are dozens of other readers who would resonate completely with your story. Laughing at a bad or inappropriate joke happens. Keep trusting; youll be alright. People with scrupulosity tend to see the world in severely black and white terms. The second OCD lesson we can take from the honeybee is the value of not responding when we feel endangered. It is also possible that they are not atheists because they believe themselves to be both honest and good people while simultaneously accusing all Christians of being unrighteous people who do evil things. Thanks for this info, but I'm still not entirely sure about how to deal with my blasphemous thoughts. Is my repentance too late? It has been difficult. Though He is close and personal to each one of us, there is still an immense gap of ontological distance. But we do not have all the truth in the sense of complete human understanding. Required fields are marked. I never have had that before, and never was like this. I was at ease when I was with her but as soon as I felt, I fell back into tracing my walk and cross checking how many times I have spoken of the Holy Spirit. Keep coming to God and talking to Him, and try to ignore the thoughts that youve committed the unpardonable sin. Remember when Jesus was taken before King Herod? It sounds like you may be in that avoidant camp. I picked up where I had left off. If someone honestly wishes to change his religious status, leave his religion, curse God, or use abusive language towards a deity, he will do so without reservation. He can never lose so why would He even bother giving you the Holy Spirit if He is going to lose? A common peasant would be out of line if he attempted to make a royal declaration. I really really found this site helpful.. I have had a large number of my clients come with spiritual baggage for this exact reason, which in reality these are not prophecies at all. Since the thought/s are in our mind, different things can easily trigger the thoughts and bring them to the conscious mind. One more text, Luke 12:10: And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Over the span of my ministry there have been several people probably a lot more people dont come forward, but these came forward who came to me deeply convinced they had committed the sin against the Holy Spirit and were therefore beyond forgiveness. Friends, the reason why we are so scared all the time is because we see ourselves as Judas, a demon, King Saul and the others in the Bible who God has rejected. Then worship Him. When I brought them into the landconcerningwhich I had raised My hand in an oath to give them, andthey saw all the high hills and all the thick trees, there they offered their sacrifices and provoked Me with their offerings. You can pray like this: dear Lord, I think my motives are pretty messed up, but you knew that already. Youre right the unpardonable sin is nuanced and should not be taken in a magical or superstitious way that is, we should not imagine that our words have abracadabra power to zap us out of the book of life. It tells you that if you have an intrusive, unwanted blasphemous thought, that you are actually a blasphemer. I started going crazy, talking to myself as two different people. We're Christians, not because we're perfect but we believe and follow Christ. Verbally tell God how you love Him and how great He is. The Jews answered Him, saying, For a good work we do not stone You, but forblasphemy, and because You, being a Man,make Yourself God.. Jesus in in infinite wisdom knew people would struggle with this. "The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a willful, determined opposition to the present power of the Holy Spirit." One more text, Luke 12:10: "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." God is God, and we are His servants. Oh whats that? The more he tries to get me to sin and fall away. Mockery can be deadly to our intrusive thoughts. Nothing changed. The unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an act of resistance which belittles the Holy Spirit so grievously that he withdraws forever with his convicting power so that we are never able to repent and be forgiven. It just keeps coming back and consuming your attention. We have seen how intrusive thoughts are Repetitive, Unwanted, and Meaningful now we will see that they are also viewed as being very Powerful (RUMP). I just am scared for my future and whats gonna happen to me I dont wanna go to helldo you think god understands I never intend to say these thoughts.. please help. But also recognize the underlying OCD pattern, so if it morphs away from worrying about your loved ones salvation to worrying about whether your yellow shirt will cause a car accident, youll know exactly whats happening: OCDs magical thinking. The more you struggle, the worse these thoughts become, until you exhaust yourself with anxiety and fear. Being tempted does not mean we have sinned. Andauthority was given him over everytribe, tongue, and nation. I think your reply could literally change my life. Like the reasons I wrote earlier, and going to heaven and not hell. 1. John 6:44 says that no one comes to Christ unless the Father draws them. It is the appropriate response given to a person that duly recognizes his or her status and role. I know I really am a believer and that Jesus was my whole world until this latest attack making me feel completely damned to hell. There is no evidence that self-harm can stop intrusive thoughts. So, in context, blaspheme against the Holy Spirit is discrediting miracles, especially exorcisms of evil spirits. The answer to intensity is not more intensity. And i had many people dreaming of me dying. If Christ can suffer on the cross for my sins I can suffer a little pain until these thoughts dissipate. I used to be a Eucharistic Minister and a CCD teacher. Are you actively working against him? when i have a bad thought i deal with god opposite of thought . If you have spiritual issues related to a mental health and recovery issue, please use the Recovery Related Spiritual Advice forum. I want God to love me. God bless you for this relieving and helpful article too! I dont know how youll do that, Lord, but Im going to just keep coming to you every day and bringing you my confused feelings for YOU to heal them. It is no different than the prisoner who admits to a crime he did not do while being physically tortured. However,I felt that this was God's way of telling me to remain calm and think of him alone because i was panicking and wondering why am I having these thoughts because I am a Christian and would they affect my eternal life but God gave me this information the same day it seems to be getting worse and I can't thank him enough for that peace within that I feel now. Also, are there any online support groups for this topic? If I'd gone in there remembering/knowing that, I doubt I'd have said it! Anuraj, I pray for joy in your life, peace over your mind and healing from God. I have blasphemy thoughts the whole time including the f word- I dont want them! It's a shame all the prophetic words spoken over me won't happen. To make it worse, these thoughts wont go away. Or just the word satan makes me get anxiety.it like constant thoughts especially when I pray. David, we are all in this together. I recently came under attack and for a second, its like I actually thought one. Knowing what to DO about them is another. For example, John Lennon was thinking about getting rid of Paul McCartney when he wrote the song Youre So Dead, He complained, Paul McCartney has a bloody nerve singing Live and Let Die like Im Ringo. You may also have blasphemous thoughts when listening to music that deals with sexual topics (e. Copyright 2022 - 2023 Heart Eyes Magazine -. I have constant intrusive thoughts that cause me fear and distress. When you are fully sold to the idea that you are the god of your own life and you no longer have respect for Gods authority, you sink into an experience of blatant disregard and sin. Its really frustrating. I do not hate the Holy Spirit but I still find myself thinking these horrible thoughts. Truthfully, it FEELS like you are doing it because of the feelings of pushing it out. Scrupulosity isnt a sin. I often feel like I've lost eternity; that it was never even meant for me, but I still want to win souls for Christ, not wanting to make others like me but this act still does not fill the void I feel when I think that I'm eternally separated from the oppurtunity of having God has my father. Do I need to apologise to God and the people who I hurt when I had intrusive thoughts about them? Scrupulosity tends to give us a sense of hyper-responsibility for all things in our spiritual life. For many years, intrusive thoughts that are often entirely negative, attacking God and other religious people, cursing them, criticizing their beliefs, and even questioning whether God exists. When I pray these thoughts keep coming and it's hard to pray because I feel like I am not being honest. This started for me when I was about 19 or 20 years of age. Dont forget: the period of apathy happens to everyone who struggles with intrusive thoughts. Honey, God allows U-Turns, He really does. And such WERE some of you. I hope my reply helps. Blasphemous thoughts meaning When you have sinful thoughts, you may have thoughts and ideas that violate your religious beliefs. my mind just could not take it. The he Jesus is referring to is the Holy Spirit. It started after I cursed God in 1994. In one passage, we are told that without holiness, no one will see the Lord, which indicates that sin is sinful regardless of our intentions and whether we act on it. Wow, what a privilege, to meet Godand yet, He met God in an incredibly intimate way when his own feelings were radically off. Please go back and read this story. God bless you. It ministered to my soul. I was prayed over at church and I finally understand what it means to lay it all down at Jesus feet and trust it all to him. Lets look at how the Holy Spirit works and you will understand why the person who commits this sin can never receive forgiveness. But Im here to tell you that all of that is false. God never promised to remove the things that bother us but He said He will prepare a banqueting table for us while our evil enemies (like intrusive thoughts) glower and lurk in the dark forest nearby. This becomes a trigger then that maybe I was never really born again, maybe I didnt accept Jesus correctly etc etc etc. You accept all these things by faith but not by sight. In medieval times priests used to ask their flock whether they did or thought this or that perverse thing, and ended up with them having problems they never even knew about before! Yep read the whole article and it is very reliving after reading it. I grew up in a home that was very unstable with lots of angry outbursts. did you really seek the Lord about this illness whatever it is cus I fear so many have demons telling them things of God and it isn't I want to receive this but fear what IF what if we truly who deal with this aren't God's Children I want to be absolutely want to make sure but glad I'm not alone many others deal with this why are we facing this I've cried out over 20 yrs for freedom healing felt God is mad at me and I won't be healed, That also happens to me too. And God, I believe, was ok with that. You whomake your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law? And He loves us with a love that is eternal and undying. Unfortunately, this natural response causes more harm than good. Know this: you can heal from this. My dad loves bees. Just hope that God can forgive me. I cried my eyes out in his car. I read your article about the unforgivable sin of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. of I seldom go out and I have no close friends because I am afraid of being unable to hide my scrupulosity attacks. I have a video that talks about this exact thingI encourage you to look through the videos! When the Pharisees in the Bible committed that sin, they didn't care at all. I hate this and pray and pray for God to open my eyes of my heart to all of His truth again. He is with you and He loves you very much. Sometimes we get feelings that are not an accurate reflection of reality, and this does not make us less of a believer. And so he perished. I find a mistake on everything I do, constantly forgetting the Master's love for me and I blame myself over it and sometimes It takes days before I eventually forgive myself. Hi My name is Oje possible i have been suffering this unwanted blasphemous thoughts for so many years. Don't feel anything. King Jesus, you break every chain. The second route is to analyze passage that speak to the reality of blasphemous thoughts that are ego-dystonic, alien, and unwanted. What grieves him is bitterness and wrath and anger against other people. US President Harry Truman used to begin each day with a staff meeting at 8:30. For example, Nazi soldiers believed that the Arian race was superior to Jews and that ethnic cleansing would bring about a race of bermenschen. This cookie is installed by Google Analytics. It all started when I read the chapter in Matthew where our Lord Jesus said that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. Hey Are these Articles in Spanish too? Anyways do you think Im ok? I believe my OCD stems from fearful teaching and biblical beliefs. I learned about the unpardonable sin right after I asked Jesus in my heart. I asked God to heal my mind, change my thinking and I have finally grasped what it means to lay all of this at the feet of Jesus. They feel dangerous but typically present no real harm. People love to pick out verses here and there to build a case without any attention to the context. The Bible says Faith comes by hearing the Word of God Romans 10:17. Although you don't fully understand the resurrection, still believe in Jesus. I recognize the thought is there in my head, but Im not going to engage with it, no matter how scary it is. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. He came to me during the Aberystwyth Conference in the Great Hall of the University this year. If youre looking for one-on-one support, you can also consider getting therapy from an OCD specialist on the NOCD app. And the high priest answered and said to Him,I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God! Jesus said to him,It is asyou said. Recognize emotional reasoning for what it is and determine to let your life be guided by the Word of God rather than your emotions. This article brought me to tears. You just have to wait for it. My name is Jenn and i am 38 years old. What is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Thanks. My dad even disowned me for a period. Thats why to blaspheme the Holy Spirit has to be an act of the will, not a passing ignorance. Consider how Matthew 12:31-32 reads in The Message Bible: Theres nothing done or said that cant be forgiven. If you have OCD, you may get intrusive thoughts in one or more of the following areas: Do you have scrupulosity? Again, intrusive thoughts are ego-dystonic. Its the hardest thing a person can go through feeling forsaken, scared and worried over something we cannot know until we die. I sometimes get evil thoughts about God what I mean is sexual thoughts about God. Its the worst case ive ever seen. I got out a week later and smoked marijuana again. But they didnt want to believe, and they willfully searched for excuses. And I think about Him and His goodness and perfection, and it calms me down. We get a lot of emails from you listeners every month, and I dont think theres a more common question that we get over the years than this one recently sent in from a listener: Hello, Pastor John. Thank you so much for this post. I didn't know what I do now. So here is my take on this. I was prayed over at church and I have finally started to understand fully what it means to lay the battle and all the burdens at Jesus feet. But we ought to be humble and admit that there is a lot we dont know. A friend prayed over me to drive out whatever spirit was attacking me. I also use to feel a strong sensation of preaching the gospel in which if I don't,I will feel so much condemned,I don't use to preach it because I think I will be a liar.What can I do in such situations sir? Dear Jamie, I have suffered terribly with scrupulosity and religious OCD for all my life and I made a promise to God about masturbation when I was about 12 years old. There are a few verses we can use to understand this phenomenon and help you reduce your fears. If you are having struggles, need support in a particular area that you aren't finding a specific recovery area forum, you may find the General Struggles forum a great place to post. What youre mentioning about bearing the devils child as a male is less common but I have encountered some cases of people with religious OCD obsessing about possible sexual abnormalities from supernatural causes. Like even if my feelings are kinda lost, even if my motives are selfish/intellectual, even if my heart is hardened, even if I have willfully and deliberately sinned a LOT, backslidden, and etc? Hi.. what if i thought of and imagined many times about having sex with the evil Can you help me with this? You've dedicated your life to a worthy cause in doing this, and I'm thankful that God is working through you to help others, like myself, who are facing this. In the beginning, they felt like these thoughts were strange and unwanted, but as they investigated further, they discovered truth and beauty.

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