And customer service at Reminton/Marlin is reportedly very slow. Beginning life as the Model 1893then transitioning through the Model 93, the Model 1936, the Model 36, and eventually settling on the Model 336, Marlins enduring lever action is now 125 years strong. It became required to open boxes outside the presence of the customers for fear of what you would find. The 338MXLR features a side cartridge ejection port, a hammer block safety and stainless steel receiver, barrel, lever, trigger guard plate, magazine tube and loading gate. Im late to this thread, but heres my relatively recent history/impression with both Marlin and Henry.. Thats because Bass Pro Shops in Dania Florida/Ft. service@guns.com I have a Marlin 1881 45-70 made in 1885 full length tube and 2 1895S that were made in the early 1980s and 1 1895 with full tube made around early 2000s. Id like a lever action in 10mm, to go with a Glock 20. I found it in the closet cleaning out my grand parents house in 1993. Nothing showed. When there was bad talk about you guys I wanted to give you a chance. Best case is that the piece ahead of this one had a JM stamp on the barrel. The right stock has a tiny gap where it butts up. The rifle looks great no noticeable or obvious problems or defects. Still, a Marlin 1895 (a 336 with big ports and magazine tube) looks and handles best with iron sights. The action is butter smooth UNLIKE the Marlins. The gun is definitely a thumper, but it keeps the bears at bay!! Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. I would guess the trigger pull to be about 8 lbs. Hornady's focus over the last decade has been on exposed-hammer, rear-locking lever rifles with tube magazines the Marlins and Winchesters whose ancestors defined the saddle carbine, won the West and became archetypal woods guns for whitetail hunters. Center, between .308 Winchester(left) and .338 Marlin Express(right) Type Rifle Place of origin USA Production history Designer Marlin/ Hornady Manufacturer Hornady Produced 2007 Specifications Parent case .307 Winchester Case type Semi-rimmed, bottleneck Bullet diameter .308 in (7.8 mm) Neck diameter .344 in (8.7 mm) Shoulder diameter Congratulations Marlin! I will put it to the test but it looks and feels improved. The .308 Marlin Express, on the other hand, was made with a thinner web than its parent case, the .307 Winchester, for additional capacity. Thank you Marlin. This may be a special case and not necessarily apply to lower tolerance designs. To answer Christines question NO! A solid hit for that round drops deer with authority. All Rights Reserved. We show you how. I now have over 600 rounds through it without a flaw. I assured them neither and agreed to send them back the guns but didnt want a part replaced and I would end up with the same problem. Even counting screws and springs, its probably still less than a hundred individual pieces. Why the Model 1893 became the Model 93 in 1905 remains a mystery. Youre EXPECTED to wear your tighty-whities under your jeans instead of on your head. Description: Marlin 338 MX, Lever action rifle, 338 Marlin Express caliber, 22 inch barrel. Making one gun is easy. And the trigger pull was actually lighter and a bit smoother than on some of my old Marlins. Marlins Back And Its Bad! Rough actions, etc., etc. I just hope they dont go under. Whereas the .308 Marlin Express features a thinner web than the .307 Winchester (for added capacity), the new .33 has a thicker web than the .376 Steyr (for added strength). They do some pretty rigorous and thorough testing, so youre getting a little bit more than paying for an opinion. No. Someone asked him about the quality problems Ford was having and he said Yup, since we moved some more production (products) to China for more parts our quality has suffered but in a few years it will be great. We made the repairs ourselves, and it took an hour or so of our time, instead of the 2 weeks that everything at Freedom Group companies apparently takes (if youre lucky). Glad I looked here before buying one-which I almost did today. It makes the Marlin 336 rifle, one of the most dependable, adaptable and well balanced hunting instruments ever created, a universal North American big game rifle. With the action closed, the rear of the bolt hangs out a hair proud from the receiver Well I just bought the Marlin 336BL 30/30 and I inspected it but briefly at the gun store. During about four decades of production, the forearms of Marlin rifles had been quite thin and when the Sure-grip forearm, with its fish-belly shape, became standard in 1936, the name was changed to Model 1936. 308 Marlin Express; 308 Winchester (7.62 x 51 mm) 32 Winchester Special; 32-20 Winchester; 338 Federal; 338 Lapua; 338 Marlin Express; 338 Rem Ultra Mag; 338 Ruger Compact Magnum; 338 Winchester Magnum; 348 Winchester; 35 Remington; 35 Whelen; 350 Legend; 358 Winchester; 375 H&H; 375 Ruger; 375 Winchester; They settled on the 200-grain .338 projectile from their .338 Winchester Magnum line. My son and younger brother both use 336s in the 30.30 caliber. Ive recently bought a Marlin and two Henrys. In fact, at 2,565 fps, the new .338's pointed 200-grain bullet matches the velocity and energy of the .348 Winchester bullet at the muzzle, then quickly leaves it behind. I wouldnt mess with the other stuff. Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). But the old ones went from 250 to 500 after freedom grope dicked them up. I think you reward good products from a company and cut the legs off the rest. Did you *actually* make a warranty claim, or are you just whining about the product on a forum? And theres no getting around it: Marlin should have shut down manufacturing completely during thistransition. The company has done major damage to the brand by selling thousands of crap guns. The magazine capacity 16 rounds of LR, or 21 rounds of Short is ridiculously generous. As someone who doesnt have 30+ years of machining experience but owns 2 guns that dont extract exactly as youve described it, what did you do to fix it? But just making excuses for one manufacturers crappy work isnt going to get them to fix it. Even the rear-locking Savage 99 has a high-pressure ceiling as proven by its .243, .308, .358 and .284 chamberings. He settled on the .33. Clearly no one had ever worked this action at the factory or anywhere else until this poor guy got it to the range. But the BLR, like Winchester's Model 88 and the forgotten Sako Finnwolf, are not traditional lever actions. Here's a video review from a guy that says it all. But with about 250 rounds through it and a switch to Tetra grease on the bolt and hammer, it is significantly smoother than new. And not happily, as I recall. For those of you who dont think that is impressive, doing that with 45-70 is kinda like having a catapault that throws 78 Impalas to the same spot a half mile away. I dont get why I can buy a 336 in .30-30 at the Wal-Mart for $300 but have to search to find an 1894 in .357 which then costs me better than $900. did not. The TORO (Taurus Optics Ready Option) is touted as the first-ever optics-ready revolver, and being a sucker for red dots and handguns, I had to try it. Says JM on the barrel. I didnt use the rifle for two years. with a muzzle velocity of 2565fps and energy of 2921 this bullet retains Mechanical treatment of ball powders with special deterrents produces an early pressure curve ideal for short barrels. Sales increased in 1953 with the addition of the .35 Remington. I hunted both elk and moose with the .338 ME, with awesome accuracy and performance. Well, Remington was EXPECTED to produce a rifle that was true to the fit and finish and accuracy of pre-Remlin Marlins. And it must outperform such old standbys as the .30-30 Winchester, .32 Win. Its practical effective range on CXP2 game would be limited by its trajectory. Winchester Model 94 .22 WMR: Famous Silhouette Rifle. It wasnt just that he was wrong on the facts, which he was, it was also that he talked down to me about it and was incredibly dismissive. Yes. But ever since 2007, Remington has not only gone downhill on its own brand, but FG has ruined everything else theyve touched. An 1894S in 44 Mag and a 444S in 444 Marlin. Kicks good but man is it fun launching 300+ grain bullets. Four good shots in the 45-70, five if you finagle it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The transitions drained nothing from the mechanism's sleek but Spartan profile, its slick cycling and gunny feel. Sign up to receive new product announcements, special offers, and the annual product catalog. I hear great feedback like Randalls, but I hear miserable feedback elsewhere about failures to feed or eject. The Lewis Hepburn-designed Model 1893 breech-locking system has remained the same to this day, and while its quite simple, not all current Model 336 owners understand its operation. Type: Hunting. Hornady engineers then looked to the projectile for the new cartridge. . Was on the stiff side brand new. Hope things work out for Marlin. He didnt care that I had that flashhider on two other rifles and they fit just fine. So, in terms of killing power, the .338 Marlin Express is a 200 yard elk cartridge and a 300 yard deer cartridge with the Hornady 200 grain flat point bullet at a MV of 2400 fps. It has a 20-inch barrel, and its walnut stock and forearm have generous checkering coverage. This powerful, fast handling rifle would be a good choice for hunting any bear species. I will never purchase a new Marlin again! I'm very sure I'll like it anyway. (I have since rectified the problem my throwing dollars at bulk buys, and I have enough .308 to last me for a considerable while now.). So I guess you could say our family is Marlin fans. What I got back was A rifle that still bulged cases and after 25 shots the front sight fell off , the loading tube is sloppy in the dove tail( it;s held in place by the forearm) and a screw fell out of the receiver. No. 338 Marlin Express Features: Tight Wall Concentricity Concentricity helps to ensure proper bullet seating in both the case and the chamber of your firearm. But millennials arent as brand faithful as their predecessors, and time is running out. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Copyright Hornady, Privacy Policy | CCPA Request | Accessibility Policy | Terms of Use, Designed and developed by IdeaBank Marketing. Purpose: general use truck gun/hunting rifle when some future politician gets a wild hair up his/her ass, and .308 Winchester to feed my two .308 bolt guns and my SCAR 17S gets hard to find again. The trigger is a bit heavy, but has a clean break. Only time will tell. Anyway, comparing the older rifle to the newer one further reinforces my belief that Remington really lost their way with the Marlin brand. Did complete inspection before final purchase. I tried 2 Marlin 60s and every one was a jam-o-matic. JavaScript is disabled. All rights reserved. I'll be using a receiver sight. Thanks. I put it back in the box, paid, and left. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. Hold it in your hands if you are worried. Everything considered, his rifle is as good as the Model 336 has ever been. Furniture is walnut, nice but not fancy. The 1.89-inch semi-rimmed case has a 25-degree shoulder, a base diameter of .553. Gone are all versions of the .308 Marlin Express and .338 Marlin Express. The shorter case has about 3.5 percent less capacity, but Hornady more than makes up for the difference by loading the same type of special propellant in the .308 Marlin Express as the company loads in its Light Magnum family of ammunition (which is slated to be discontinued; see Wayne van Zwoll's article on the new Superformance ammo in this . I was sad when I drove by the closed Marlin plant a few years ago. My dad, brother, and I all had 336 Marlins 35 cal. In fact, you have to wonder if its too late for Marlin. I would suggest anyone considering buying a new Marlin first check out several recent reports at marlinowners dot com of potential SAFETY problems as well as ongoing cosmetic/function problems with the new Freedom Group Remington/Marlins (Remlins). I can shoot 2 inch groups at 50 yards from a bench. . Its as if managing the fallout is somehow easier than preventing the screwup in the first place. And then they had manufacturing problems. To my surprise my call was handled promptly and Therefore, FG moved the crap equipment and left most of the craftsmen behind. At the range, I just gave up and started manually loading one at a time through the ejection port. The fit of the wood to the receiver is flawless. Each rifle was for all intents and purposes a custom build. The curve's shape and height and the area underneath show thrust imparted to the bullet. For quality firearms, Id stick with S&W, Ruger, Savage and CZ, and a few Berettas. Sako has since discontinued chambering it, but Savage still has .338 Federal 110 Scout Rifles and Bear Hunters. They did not properly fix the issue. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. When I contacted AAC about their 7.62 flashhider not fitting into one of their 7.62 cans, the guy basically didnt believe me. I agree, Michael. It has never jammed. The Model 1892 is available in .357, though. They include the Standard rifle with a checkered walnut stock and 22-inch barrel; the Trapper with a synthetic stock, 16.5-inch barrel, and Skinner aperture sight; the Cowboy with an 18.5- or a 26-inch tapered octagon barrel; the 1895G with a walnut stock and an 18.5-inch barrel; the same gun with a laminated wood stock and a big-loop finger lever called the Model 1895GBL; the Model 1895GS with a straight-grip walnut stock and an 18.5-inch barrel; and the 1895SBL in stainless steel and laminated wood with an 18.5-inch barrel and a Picatinny rail with a Skinner aperture sight. Good! This is probably one of the greatest advances in lever action rifles due to their tubular magazines. The purchase of Marlin Firearms Co. by Remington Arms Co. was finalized in January 2008, and in 2010 Remington relocated Model 336 production from the old Marlin plant in New Haven to Remingtons New York factory. As far as Volcanic being a first, thats not rightJennings made some rocket-ball lever rifles before Volcanic came into being, and the first Volcanics were actually made by and branded as Smith & Wessons, both rifles and pistols in .31 and .41 caliber, brass or iron frames. But supporting an installed base of 100s of thousands of guns, where you need to be compatible for both parts replacement and putting older parts into new guns? Imagine if you will the nature of the steel employed by Remington and how long its likely to last. Hell, run them through a 3D scanner. But I repeat.BE CAREFUL before you walk out the door with that Marlin, or you may not like what you see when you get home. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. All of Hornady's new for 2009 products are covered in this year's. WOW, I went to three different gun stores and handled the model 336. And in the intervening time an idiot like me buying a Ford gets crappy parts. Compounding the difficulties, Remington discovered dimensioned drawings of Marlins iconic rifles did not exist. Full magazine. My father bought a Winchester 94 in 30-30 when I was kid and after one range session with it he sold it and went back to his old Marlin 336. The sights are decent for semi-buckhorns We need every gun company that can stay solvent to remain solvent. The one made in this century has the hardest action to cycle. Dave wanted more powder capacity to keep pressures modest without sacrificing ballistic muscle. The New Model 1895 is also back in full production, and quite a few variations are offeredall in .45-70. It merely pushed the hammer down part way and then the hammer would get caught in the bolt notch and freeze the action. At that point only the .30-30 and .32 Special remained. Note that reloading data for 200-grain (13 g) bullets for some of the cartridges is not available. I was at Cabelas maybe a year or so ago, and they had two whole racks filled with Marlin 336s, marked as used, but clearly unfired. Were working hard to bring it back.. It is one of the all-time great deer rifles, and anyone should be proud to own one. On the product side, Marlin reduced its offerings from 29 catalog lever-gun models down to 18 . We'd run into space problems with bigger hulls; besides, bullet speeds above 2,700 fps often cost more than they're worth." . Marlin is dead and that is a tragedy. Having just purchased a new to me but manufactured pre sale of the company Marlin lever gun (45/70), I can tell you that the newly manufactured lever guns receive almost nothing but horrible reviews (invloving both quality control, and customer service or lack thereof). This is no joke. The Marlin cant even come close in any way! Saw a guy on the homegunsmith forum had made one, albeit it used a conventional cartridge (a modified .40 S&W). The 1895 had a box magazine, but this rifle (a favorite of Teddy Roosevelt's) was heavy, ponderous even, compared to lively Winchester and Marlin carbines. And, its not even that old. Im a retired defense industry engineer and have to agree with you about supplying the drawings. When I contacted them about the problems; their attitude was that I didnt know what I was doing or that I had buyers remorse. Thanks. Other problems. I give up on any company that puts a customer through such faulty quality and service- especially when they know it and willingly do it . Side by side you wonder if Savage makes them for marlin, the stock seems to be the only thing different between the two. Let's review what makes this soft-shooting carry gun so special. So BULLSHHTTTT to all those liars who making noise about Remington have cleaned up this mess. Pointed bullets resting against primers posed a hazard during recoil. it has never had a feed failure not caused by me (short shucked) But if they dont get their crap together, theyre going to fade and that would be a shame. We have had Remington bolt guns with sand paper actions, bad finishes, sharp rough machine edges on the outside of the receiver, you name it. The guns were fragile and the cartridge VERY weak, and they didnt sell. The filters provided below are based on information received from manufacturers and/or suppliers and may be incomplete. The proceeds were donated to the Hunting & Shooting Sports Heritage Fund. . #1. Export them in package deals for the overseas importers. Its trajectory is similar to the .30-06 Springfield.[3]. .308 Marlin Express.308 Winchester.338 Lapua Magnum.338 Marlin Express.338 Winchester Magnum.35 Remington.35 Whelen.350 Legend.375 H&H Magnum.375 Ruger Clearly the National Shooting Sports Foundations reporter wasnt paying attention. Its practical effective range on CXP2 game would be limited by its trajectory. The cartridge uses a slightly shorter, rimmed case to function in lever-action rifles with tubular magazines. The 2007 introduction of the .308 Marlin Express, the result of a joint effort by Hornady and Marlin, brought forth a new case that could be adapted to a .338 O'Connor type cartridge. Personally, I would only buy an older used Marlin gun that can be checked out in person, at least until there are reports of significant changes at Freedom Group. Why of course I said why? "We load to 46,500 psi," Dave explains. One report of a gun blowing up with Remington factory ammo. Im an excellent marksmen and avid gun enthusiast and I must say Im very impressed with my gun,the fit,finish and accuracy is everything I would expect from a marlin.
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