Im still surprised at how much I like this stock. The Nosler 125-grain AccuBond penetrated 8 inches and retained 78 percent of its weight. and horses are larger than elk. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. .30-30 works for a lot of jobs. Capable of pushing a 150-grain bullet 2,240 fps at the muzzle. That same round is generating over 1,000ft/lbs at 250 yards, and a mediocre marksman will be able to put rounds inside a 4 circle at that range under hunting conditions. Wilson sent the AR with optics sighted in. JW , most of these guys are reading data from a manual not a readout on a chrony read out. There will no doubt be a fair degree of internet angst over this new .30-caliber AR-15 cartridge with the predictable refrains of "it's just marketing" and "it doesn't do anything my .300 BLK doesn't do." And from all the testing and reports its exceeded that.. I have his tactical hunter & shoots far better than I am capable of. I was looking for an AR15 round that would hit harder than the .556 and shoot flat and accurate. Following as well. And that ones in 5.56 and weights a full pound more. A bullet to the spine usually drops a pig in its tracks. 110gr Lehigh CC #05-308-110-CUSP (our partners at Lehigh Defense designed this bullet specifically for the 300 HAMR to provide extreme accuracy and deadly terminal performance) This not only makes practice very pleasant, but it allows much faster repeat shots if somebody runs into a bunch of pigs. I know nothing of either. The receiver sets and furniture all share a theme, and flow well together. The user has many finish options available, as well as barrel lengths and styles. With the .300 Blackout, which was designed to fire both super and subsonic ammunition, the twist rate is a compromise. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Do not attempt to imitate anything contained herein.The best way to keep up to date is to join m. I set the stack of paper 25 yards from the muzzle, where impact velocity would be high. Good brush and cover gun. There is a tab or something in these magazines that cause the rounds to not stack properly after some number have been inserted into the magazine. But what about on game (and not just thin skinned deer)? Redding also makes dies, and along with the Wilson ammunition, the Hunting Shack in Montana also makes HSM .300 HAMR loads with Sierra 135- and 150-grain bullets. DY, if you are only limiting yourself to the 110gr round, there is little benefit to the 300 Hamr. The .300 HAMR (center) has a case length between the .300 Blackout (far left) and .223 Remington (far right). Sounds like you need to put some more thought into projectile choices for your task at hand. Thats because Wilson Combat recommends bullets weights from 110gr to 150grs for the 300 Hamr, so subsonic isnt recommended at all. Thats a real difference. The 300 Blackout was designed for use in AR-15 rifles, while the 300 Ham R was designed for bolt-action rifles. The factory 7.6239 in the same barrel length and bullet weight (Winchester 150-grain Razorback XT) develops 2,056 fps and 1,408 ft-lbs. I personally get 2200FPS with an 8.5 barrel with that load, so I know their data is correct. A lightweight AR-15 delivering sub MOA accuracy gets 5 stars. WC 300 HAMR case Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! i guess ill just run down to the local gun store and grab some 30 apache ammo . by the way, the above was with a 20 barrel. Despite being highly edible, over the past couple of decades pigs have become the biggest varmint in the country. Nope. Save my name and email to use for future comments. Bill set up a chronograph and sent three factory 300 Blackout Remington Premier Match 125gr OTM rounds down range. The .300 HAM'R will do everything the .30-30 Winchester will do and more, but from an AR-15 platform; and in the Wilson Combat Tactical Hunter, it weighs less, shoots better and holds a lot more ammunition than any .30-30 lever-action rifle ever made. I guess that is marketing. None do to me. The 300 Ham'r is built in the traditional AR-15 footprint, and uses the AR-15 bolt carrier group and 5.55NATO/.223Rem bolt. It turned out he had actually considered naming the new round the .30-30 AR, but as a good friend pointed out, Only us old guys know and care much about the old thutty-thutty! (Apparently I qualify as one of those old guys.) I know this cartridge was never intended to be used subsonic but has anyone tried it? It had a very cool name, it worked well in the AR-15, it fired a .30-caliber bullet, and it delivered decent supersonic performance. I assume that you either need a new 300 HAMR barrel or the chamber of your existing 300 Blackout needs to be reamed to the new profile. If you use a standard 5.56 mag, youll reduce the capacity somewhat. Unfortunately, I still cant get much past 50 yards around here due to the remnants of biblical-level flooding this past season, but my groups from that distance with this HAMR were about the size of one shot from a .45. This is the stripped-down, lightweight hunting rig that Bill keeps strapped to his Kawasaki Mule or in his vehicle when hes around the ranch for hog eradication. While the Hornady retained only 42 percent of its weight, it was the heaviest bullet so it still penetrated 7 inches. Round Threaded Match Grade Barrel with Circle WC Ranch Logo Even the HPs make ice pick wounds. I looked it up and from the Wilson's Combat website the ballistics look really good especially when compared to the 300 Blackout. Yeah. I load the Ham'R with 125 NoslerBT. The result was the .300 HAMR, which is a modified .223 Remington case necked up to .30-caliber. Dull round nose bullets and flat nose soft points, virtually mandatory on tube fed lever action guns to avoid primer detonation in magazine under recoil, are vastly superior to spitzer bullets for terminal performance on living tissue. From that, the result is an easy +300 feet per second beyond Blackout with 110-135-grain-range .308 bullets, which means a solid 2600+ fps with a 110-grain. My CFE BLK powder came in from PV this week. #A300HMR-125-PH, 130gr Speer FN HC CFE, of course, stands for copper fouling eraser. All the Wilson ammunition was loaded with CFE BLK, and after the range session I took a look inside the barrel with a Hawkeye bore-scope. They list both forged and billet upper receivers in several different barrel lengths, ready to ship. The 300 HAM'R is a cartridge designed by Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat and it is made for hunting. Per second is their. 1. As said, and as always with Wilson Combat, you can get a complete gun, complete upper or the components separately. All 300 HAMR will do is screw up commonality of the 300 Blackout. Those are the claims, but what do they look like in real life? Still, that load would generate almost 700ft/lbs of energy at that range. With a 1300FPS minimum for expansion, there is nothing else out there that is ethical for distance in that caliber. At about the turn of the 20th to 21st century, a movement to create better cartridges for the AR-15 platform began. It just WRECKS whatever it hits. If you are buying commercial, not much out there is cheaper than surplus steel case 7.62X39. And both in Wilson Combat guns. Ugh another caliber for the AR. What is 300 HAM'R? You must log in or register to reply here. Seekins Precision will also be making AR-15s and barrels in .300 HAMR. so, they came up with the 7.62X45. .300 Blackout has become a popular whitetail deer hunting round (around where I live, anyhow). Reactions: strikeeagle1, TACC, Forgetful Coyote and 3 others. 2200FPS with the Barnes 110 (again, 8.5 barrel) has GREATER energy at any range, than the 300gr .44 Mag max load shown on Hodgdons site. Range Report: How Good Is the Smith and Wesson M&P FPC 9mm Folding Carbine? So, you can think of it as 300 blackout on steroids. But, its best to get magazines engineered for 300 Blackout. Ryan took his 35 bull with a broadside shot at 125 yards. The Hamr shows better performance with the 110, and realistically, ANY improvement in FPS is a benefit when talking fairly mundane muzzle velocities. Otherwise, meh. Nothing satisfied him, so being the industrious fellow he is, Bill decided to create his own. All of the models come with the Wilson Combat Tactical Trigger Unit set at 4lbs. Is the case wider? well these came to the us in the late 1980s. The Wilson Combat .458 HAM'R Tactical Hunter As mentioned, the .458 SOCOM was designed around the AR-15 platform, and to change pressure ratings would require a change in rifle design. Energy: The 308 is great for bear, moose and elk, but only at reasonable distances, typically inside of 350 yards. Ammo Brief: Why The .300 Hamr Nails It For Hunting. Hands-down this is the round that should have been developed in front of the blackout. 300 HAM'R RELOADING DATA EFFECTIVE SEPT 15, 2020 AND SUPERCEDES ALL PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED DATA NOTE: All velocities from a 16.25" barrel using a conventional chronograph at 75 degrees F and rounded to the nearest 25fps.Approximately 20fps higher velocity is normally recorded when using a LabRadar and 12fps per inch for other barrel lengths. Overall * * * * * Even uppers alone are $1200+. 300 HAMR closely matches good old .30-30 Winchester, and that was Bill Wilsons goal. Semi-automatic pistols for self-defense continue to be extremely popular, but there is a surprising amount of new double-stack 1911s and revolvers released this year. Lee Precision dies produced very straight ammunition and the box includes a length/headspace gauge for resized cases to ensure they will chamber easily. Oddly enough, if you reload, the 300 Hamr is actually cheaper than the 7.62X39, because reloadable 5.56 brass is cheaper than 7.62X39 brass, and .308 bullets are slightly cheaper than .310/.311 bullets. If you reload, the 300 Hamr is cheaper to plink, and cheaper to hunt with, than the 7.62X39. Not for me. While both cartridges can be used in either type of rifle, they are not interchangeable. Just get it to market,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Your email address will not be published. | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Should You Carry Your Gun With an Empty Chamber? The Bill Wilson Ranch rifle is sold as Bill carries it, and as I hunted with it, including the optics and rings. Ron Reiber of Hodgdon Powder Company then recommended Hodgdons new CFEBLK powder, which improved accuracy and velocity with less pressure. The Ham'r doesn't seem capable of doing so in that barrel length. Its brass , you throw away the powder, primer & bullet to use brass again! Recoil Test: .300 HAM'R vs .30-30 WIN Wilson Combat 360K subscribers Subscribe 481 21K views 4 years ago Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn discuss the advantages of being able to equal the.
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